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December 02, 2011

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Hopefully, your blog and others like it will encourage more winemakers to make better $10 Wines. And hopefully our buying patterns will, too. I love quality and frugality. That's just who I am. Oh yeah, and I love great wine.

Agree with the sentiment of this post - however, what most consumers don't realize is that this is a factor of economies of scale. For small producers like me, buying quality Sonoma Co fruit frm $2k - $3k / ton, the cost of the juice alone is frm $3 to $5/btl.

Factor in actual production costs & packaging costs - and you are looking at a bottle cost that exceeds $10.

We sell our wines at a fair price - some say too low... but hey, shouldn't I be able to make a living (and not a killing)?

I am a grape grower and produce "good value" Anderson Valley Pinot Noir. In northern California, it is very difficult to produce a "good value" wine unless you were lucky enough to own your own vineyard and to have purchased the land prior to 1980. If you are a good steward of the land, if you have decent farming practices and if you pay your vineyard and winery employees a fair, living wage by US standards, then a $10 or less bottle of wine is almost impossible to produce. The playing field is not level in the global wine market.

I couldn't agree more...drink what you want,and the wine snobs be damned.

We make good value wines from Napa under $20.00 .

Consumers love our wines(our continued growth shows that)

Wine writers don't care, they want to write about them next 150 case $300.00 wine.

Thanks for all the comments. I also got several emails discussing the post, and there has been so much interest in the subject that I'll do a follow-up post next week.

Also, thanks for keeping the discussion, which I appreciate more than you know.

This article is incredibly well-written and engaging. And most importantly, on point.

I've been working toward consumer education about wine and helping consumers find value in their wine purchases for several years now and I always feel at odds with the wine-writing community because I take a more consumer-driven point of view and less wine-expert point of view.

Americans rarely know (or care) what anything costs to produce, only what they're willing to pay for it. Unlike in China where recent reports stated that people are willing to pay way too much for something they don't care about just to demonstrate the ability to pay too much.

I'm guessing it's cultural influences like these that will set the price of wine going forward, much less than the quality of what's in the bottle.

My ex was a winebuyer for a well known restaurant in the Ft. Lauderdake area. As a result, I was privileged to be exposed to every price level of wine from under $20 to over $300. I have found that there are some excellent wines to be had, even at the $8 level. There is no reason to buy plonk these days. Don't be intimidated by wine. Experiment and find the values that are readily available. Thanks for your thoughtful and well written article.

Jeff - you make the point exactly when you say, "most Americans buy wine strictly by price", and then later point out (too gently) that there are poorly made cheap wines. If consumers are buying strictly by price, or simply to get buzzed as Bittman apparently told you, that means they don't care if the wine is any good. So maybe you and I should just quit. You have always done a stand-up job of searching for good quality among the cheap wines, but by your argument, people don't care. That makes your $100/$10 comparison irrelevant. (Everyone knows QPR is logarithmic, not linear. ;-)

My problem with Taber's book is that he celebrates cheap for cheap's sake and concludes that anyone who favors a $20 wine - or God forbid a $50 one, for whatever reason, is just plain stupid.

Far too often the $15+ wines aren't that much better than the $5-10 wines, so as someone who doesn't have much money to spend on wine, I'd rather buy 2-3 bottles to try rather than one bottle I might be unhappy with.

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