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February 21, 2011

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Nice column. Thanks. I'll take uniqueness in my wine.

I would view terroir as more than the soil. It would have to include the entire climate. From the soil, to the number of sunny days, to the temp. extremes, precipitation, altitude, what way the wind blows, and wind source. There are huge differences in oak species effects on wine character. Now it is kind of standardized between 3-4 types. But not long ago, barrels were local sourced and locally produced to varying quality. This would have had a huge impact on wine taste from a region.

What I don't see discussed much; because nobody really knows probably (they just realized Carmenere isn't Merlot for instance), is the genetics. Syrah and Shiraz are the same grape, but are they direct clones? What is the genetic difference. Hard to believe there is not more genetic diversity in France than Australia. Or that vines were not subjected to new selective pressures in Australia and genetic changes have not occurred. When Cab Sauv was taken from Bordeaux, was it several cuttings from every vineyard, or just from a few? Did some cuttings get propagated more often here because they were more vigorous?

I was flipping through a wine book today and saw a discussion of this. The author said the terroir gave the character, the winemaker the quality, and the climate the personality. I thought that was a good sum up of how a Latour is different than a YellowTail Cab Sauv and how a '84 Latour can be different than a '94.

That we got two comments -- two intelligent comments -- on a site where we don't get a lot of comments speaks to how important the philosophical definition of terroir is. Thank you. And I got, oddly enough, quite a few emails about this as well.

Burgundy probably offers the greatest lessons in terroir where one row of vines will mark the start of a Premier Crus designation and the immediately adjacent row up the hillside becomes Grand Cru territory. The geological variations contribute -- differences in schist, clay, stone, drainage, etc. For a good reference, check out: The New France: A Complete Guide to Contemporary French Wine (Mitchell Beazley Wine Guides) by Andrew Jefford and Jason Lowe. It delves deep into the soils of the major vineyards in Burgundy, Bordeaux, etc. Beyond the detail, it's a fun and insightful read.

I think it is interesting how complicated the issue is and how everyone compares California chardonnay to France or Pinot Noir etc. The simple comparison is in Burgundy the same winemaker makes Chardonnay & Pinot Noir from several regions and they all taste different or in Beaujolais gamay taste so different from one cru to the next, again in the same winemaker’s hand. Riesling from Germany - do they all taste the same from the same producer?

@Gregg..

Your point is well taken. The differences in riesling from terroir are even more distinct, given the different approaches in Germany, Australia (some very nice rieslings), New York, Michigan, and Oregon. Riesling, in fact, is the poster child for terroir, now that I think about it (and I wonder how much it influences the anti-terrorists that California doesn't do much riesling).

I think one reason everyone uses chardonnay as an example in terroir is that most wine drinkers know chardonnay, so that it's a more understood comparison.

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